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	<title>Comments on: Back In Business</title>
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	<description>Trying to walk that thin line between intelligence and ignorance</description>
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		<title>By: Olivier</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2010/02/back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-30219</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been twice to NY, I love this city! And though it&#039;s not related, I also really enjoy reading your posts.

Btw, I am from the French side of France...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been twice to NY, I love this city! And though it&#8217;s not related, I also really enjoy reading your posts.</p>
<p>Btw, I am from the French side of France&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Davy Brion</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2010/02/back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-29346</link>
		<dc:creator>Davy Brion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;suppose you need to write some form of breadth-first search… How would you go about testing that? I would assume it is not enough to simply check that it finds whatever you are looking for.. You would somehow need to test that the nodes are explored in the correct order?&quot;

that&#039;s a very interesting example, but it&#039;s also a complex one and since i&#039;ve never needed to test such an algorithm, i don&#039;t really have a solution that i can give you for that :)

i would probably try to stick with state-based testing for something like this (probably in combination with QuickNet instead of classical tests) and avoid any kind of interaction-based testing, despite the order requirement.

the exception handling strategies and logging suggestions have been put on the TODO list :)
no promises as to when i&#039;ll actually write about those though ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;suppose you need to write some form of breadth-first search… How would you go about testing that? I would assume it is not enough to simply check that it finds whatever you are looking for.. You would somehow need to test that the nodes are explored in the correct order?&#8221;</p>
<p>that&#8217;s a very interesting example, but it&#8217;s also a complex one and since i&#8217;ve never needed to test such an algorithm, i don&#8217;t really have a solution that i can give you for that <img src='http://davybrion.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>i would probably try to stick with state-based testing for something like this (probably in combination with QuickNet instead of classical tests) and avoid any kind of interaction-based testing, despite the order requirement.</p>
<p>the exception handling strategies and logging suggestions have been put on the TODO list <img src='http://davybrion.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
no promises as to when i&#8217;ll actually write about those though <img src='http://davybrion.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Morten Jacobsen</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2010/02/back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-29193</link>
		<dc:creator>Morten Jacobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being relatively new to the whole TDD thing I would like to see something about more advanced testing, like testing algorithms.. Algorithms usually have some temporary data that &quot;looks a certain way&quot; if while the algorithm is running, but you never see this.

For example, suppose you need to write some form of breadth-first search... How would you go about testing that? I would assume it is not enough to simply check that it finds whatever you are looking for.. You would somehow need to test that the nodes are explored in the correct order?

Another suggestion would be something that describes how you handle exceptions (Here Im talking about some overall exception handling strategies, not just where you place try...catch blocks :)) or logging in you application (What do you log? how do you log it? what level of detail should you aim for in the log? etc)..

Anyway, just some suggestions for posts.. Looking forward to your future posts..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being relatively new to the whole TDD thing I would like to see something about more advanced testing, like testing algorithms.. Algorithms usually have some temporary data that &#8220;looks a certain way&#8221; if while the algorithm is running, but you never see this.</p>
<p>For example, suppose you need to write some form of breadth-first search&#8230; How would you go about testing that? I would assume it is not enough to simply check that it finds whatever you are looking for.. You would somehow need to test that the nodes are explored in the correct order?</p>
<p>Another suggestion would be something that describes how you handle exceptions (Here Im talking about some overall exception handling strategies, not just where you place try&#8230;catch blocks <img src='http://davybrion.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) or logging in you application (What do you log? how do you log it? what level of detail should you aim for in the log? etc)..</p>
<p>Anyway, just some suggestions for posts.. Looking forward to your future posts..</p>
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		<title>By: Davy Brion</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2010/02/back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-28675</link>
		<dc:creator>Davy Brion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@alwin

i used to, but then you still actually have to show up :p</description>
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<p>i used to, but then you still actually have to show up :p</p>
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		<title>By: alwin</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2010/02/back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-28638</link>
		<dc:creator>alwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t you vote blank? (blanco in NL)

Good to have you back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you vote blank? (blanco in NL)</p>
<p>Good to have you back</p>
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		<title>By: Danthar</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2010/02/back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-28605</link>
		<dc:creator>Danthar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehehe well at least we (almost) speak the same language :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehehe well at least we (almost) speak the same language <img src='http://davybrion.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: den Ben</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2010/02/back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-28592</link>
		<dc:creator>den Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Flemish! (by no means we can be considered Dutch at all)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Flemish! (by no means we can be considered Dutch at all)</p>
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		<title>By: Davy Brion</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2010/02/back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-28570</link>
		<dc:creator>Davy Brion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the dutch side :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the dutch side <img src='http://davybrion.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Danthar</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2010/02/back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-28567</link>
		<dc:creator>Danthar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to hear you had a great time. Btw are you from the dutch or french speaking side of belgium?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear you had a great time. Btw are you from the dutch or french speaking side of belgium?</p>
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		<title>By: Jef Claes</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2010/02/back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-28565</link>
		<dc:creator>Jef Claes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no idea you were from Belgium as well :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea you were from Belgium as well <img src='http://davybrion.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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