Comments on: Very Low Expectations For Visual Studio 2010 http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/very-low-expectations-for-visual-studio-2010/ inquisitive: adjective. given to inquiry, research, or asking questions; eager for knowledge; intellectually curious Tue, 22 May 2012 17:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: I Still Have Low Expectations For Visual Studio 2010 | The Inquisitive Coder – Davy Brion's Bloghttp://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/very-low-expectations-for-visual-studio-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-26098 I Still Have Low Expectations For Visual Studio 2010 | The Inquisitive Coder – Davy Brion's Blog Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:46:44 +0000 http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=2003#comment-26098 [...] month i told you i had very low expectations for Visual Studio 2010 from a performance point of view.  Luckily, i was not alone as many people complained about [...] [...] month i told you i had very low expectations for Visual Studio 2010 from a performance point of view.  Luckily, i was not alone as many people complained about [...]

]]> By: Leon Breedthttp://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/very-low-expectations-for-visual-studio-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-23129 Leon Breedt Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:07:00 +0000 http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=2003#comment-23129 Beta 2 is OK, even for reasonable sized solutions, but then my developer machine was recently upgraded to Core i7 with 12GB of memory and 10k RPM SATA disks.VS2008 is quite fast now, hopefully we won't need to wait for Core i9 to become commodity for 2010 to be usable :)YMMV, I amortize the cost of startup by keeping 6-8 instances of VS open, enough memory for all of them to be mostly in cache. Beta 2 is OK, even for reasonable sized solutions, but then my developer machine was recently upgraded to Core i7 with 12GB of memory and 10k RPM SATA disks.

VS2008 is quite fast now, hopefully we won’t need to wait for Core i9 to become commodity for 2010 to be usable :)

YMMV, I amortize the cost of startup by keeping 6-8 instances of VS open, enough memory for all of them to be mostly in cache.

]]> By: Gabriel Lozano-Moranhttp://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/very-low-expectations-for-visual-studio-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-23120 Gabriel Lozano-Moran Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:03:39 +0000 http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=2003#comment-23120 I remember that a couple of years ago JetBrains was seriously considering of creating a IDE for .NET developers. Too bad that they decided to cancel this project.About the performance of Visual Studio 2010: i have Visual Studio 2010 Beta 2 installed on my development workstation running Windows XP Pro x64. I am also running the latest bits of Visual Studio 2010 virtualized (VMware Workstation 7, Windows 7) and the performance of Visual Studio 2010 in the virtual machine is much better than the Beta 2 installed on the host OS.Just don't dismiss Visual Studio 2010 yet. To make sure that Beta 2 was as stable as possible, there were so changes that did not make it to this release. We must embrace the fact that Microsoft is offering these Betas and CTPs and we should not judge the RTM on the quality of the early drops. I remember that a couple of years ago JetBrains was seriously considering of creating a IDE for .NET developers. Too bad that they decided to cancel this project.

About the performance of Visual Studio 2010: i have Visual Studio 2010 Beta 2 installed on my development workstation running Windows XP Pro x64. I am also running the latest bits of Visual Studio 2010 virtualized (VMware Workstation 7, Windows 7) and the performance of Visual Studio 2010 in the virtual machine is much better than the Beta 2 installed on the host OS.

Just don’t dismiss Visual Studio 2010 yet. To make sure that Beta 2 was as stable as possible, there were so changes that did not make it to this release. We must embrace the fact that Microsoft is offering these Betas and CTPs and we should not judge the RTM on the quality of the early drops.

]]> By: Jan Van Ryswyckhttp://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/very-low-expectations-for-visual-studio-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-23103 Jan Van Ryswyck Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:55:17 +0000 http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=2003#comment-23103 I totally agree that VS 2010 is way slower than VS 2008 which isn't fast either. I installed Beta2 and besides being slow, it crashes all the time too. Not very usable, so I've started to look for alternatives. I've had some good experiences with SharpDevelop in the past and MonoDevelop seems to be coming around as well, but still behind SharpDevelop and VS. The real pain is not having Resharper in these alternative IDE's which is actually the only reason I stick with VS for now. If JetBrains ever decides to extend SharpDevelop, then VS is out! That's not going to happen anytime soon, off course. I totally agree that VS 2010 is way slower than VS 2008 which isn’t fast either. I installed Beta2 and besides being slow, it crashes all the time too. Not very usable, so I’ve started to look for alternatives. I’ve had some good experiences with SharpDevelop in the past and MonoDevelop seems to be coming around as well, but still behind SharpDevelop and VS. The real pain is not having Resharper in these alternative IDE’s which is actually the only reason I stick with VS for now. If JetBrains ever decides to extend SharpDevelop, then VS is out! That’s not going to happen anytime soon, off course.

]]> By: Gabriel Lozano-Moranhttp://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/very-low-expectations-for-visual-studio-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-23102 Gabriel Lozano-Moran Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:29:20 +0000 http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=2003#comment-23102 Although I have to be careful to not violate my NDA, I can assure you that the performance has been drastically improved in the the latest bits of Visual Studio 2010 especially concerning the Silverlight and WPF designers. Using R# in Visual Studio 2010 unfortunately negatively impacts performance as well. Although I have to be careful to not violate my NDA, I can assure you that the performance has been drastically improved in the the latest bits of Visual Studio 2010 especially concerning the Silverlight and WPF designers. Using R# in Visual Studio 2010 unfortunately negatively impacts performance as well.

]]> By: Davy Brionhttp://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/very-low-expectations-for-visual-studio-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-23100 Davy Brion Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:00:58 +0000 http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=2003#comment-23100 @Jeremyif integrated graphics impact the performance of an _IDE_, then yes, i'm concerned. How could you _not_ be? @Jeremy

if integrated graphics impact the performance of an _IDE_, then yes, i’m concerned. How could you _not_ be?

]]> By: Jeremy Grayhttp://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/very-low-expectations-for-visual-studio-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-23097 Jeremy Gray Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:04:34 +0000 http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=2003#comment-23097 You're worried about how the release version will perform because a beta release has problems running on an Atom processor (a slow, single-core one, to make things worse) with integrated graphics and a slow hard drive?A bit too early to be concerned about such matters, don't you think? You’re worried about how the release version will perform because a beta release has problems running on an Atom processor (a slow, single-core one, to make things worse) with integrated graphics and a slow hard drive?

A bit too early to be concerned about such matters, don’t you think?

]]> By: Aaron Fischerhttp://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/very-low-expectations-for-visual-studio-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-23093 Aaron Fischer Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:06:40 +0000 http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=2003#comment-23093 I have never seen a version of vs handle large projects well. I never expected 2010 to break this tradition. I have never seen a version of vs handle large projects well. I never expected 2010 to break this tradition.

]]> By: Davy Brionhttp://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/very-low-expectations-for-visual-studio-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-23092 Davy Brion Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:01:19 +0000 http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=2003#comment-23092 i wouldn't label Visual Studio 2008 SP1 entirely stable either ;) i wouldn’t label Visual Studio 2008 SP1 entirely stable either ;)

]]> By: stefanhttp://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/very-low-expectations-for-visual-studio-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-23091 stefan Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:59:31 +0000 http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=2003#comment-23091 Well no Visual Studio distribution was totally stable before SP1, so let's wait SP1...2 xD Well no Visual Studio distribution was totally stable before SP1, so let’s wait SP1…2 xD

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