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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Be A Whiny Developer</title>
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	<description>Trying to walk that thin line between intelligence and ignorance</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Degosserie</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/dont-be-a-whiny-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-23261</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Degosserie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post ... I think that almost every developer goes through a &#039;whining&#039; phase, soon or later. Personally, there are 2 sentences from Eric Evans that really helps me putting things in perspective &quot;Not all of a large system will be well designed&quot; &amp; &quot;Precision designs are fragile&quot;.
Focusing on the key points, whether it&#039;s in terms of technical design and/or methodology, is what&#039;s important. Use incremental refinement anywhere else.
So indeed, complaining almost never helps :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post &#8230; I think that almost every developer goes through a &#8216;whining&#8217; phase, soon or later. Personally, there are 2 sentences from Eric Evans that really helps me putting things in perspective &#8220;Not all of a large system will be well designed&#8221; &amp; &#8220;Precision designs are fragile&#8221;.<br />
Focusing on the key points, whether it&#8217;s in terms of technical design and/or methodology, is what&#8217;s important. Use incremental refinement anywhere else.<br />
So indeed, complaining almost never helps <img src='http://davybrion.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Whiny Developer</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/dont-be-a-whiny-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-23258</link>
		<dc:creator>Whiny Developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moral hazard anywhere, anytime !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moral hazard anywhere, anytime !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Davy Brion</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/dont-be-a-whiny-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-23256</link>
		<dc:creator>Davy Brion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pho

i haven&#039;t had to cope with this since i was not a member of that team.  if i was, i certainly wouldn&#039;t have put up with it and would&#039;ve had quite a few talks with him.

i know there have been talks, but they didn&#039;t really seem to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pho</p>
<p>i haven&#8217;t had to cope with this since i was not a member of that team.  if i was, i certainly wouldn&#8217;t have put up with it and would&#8217;ve had quite a few talks with him.</p>
<p>i know there have been talks, but they didn&#8217;t really seem to help.</p>
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		<title>By: Whiny Developer</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/dont-be-a-whiny-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-23254</link>
		<dc:creator>Whiny Developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know how to get a smart developer ?
Please pay him more money or hire other developer with high salary !!!
Whiny developer get low salary !! 
Smart developer get high salary !! 
Of course, whiny&#039;s output result is not as well as smart developer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know how to get a smart developer ?<br />
Please pay him more money or hire other developer with high salary !!!<br />
Whiny developer get low salary !!<br />
Smart developer get high salary !!<br />
Of course, whiny&#8217;s output result is not as well as smart developer.</p>
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		<title>By: pho</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/dont-be-a-whiny-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-23251</link>
		<dc:creator>pho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Food for discussion.

This opens up another question, though. How do you cope with this? I think no-one (well, there&#039;s always exceptions) is &#039;whiny&#039; on purpose. I strongly believe that in most cases, all of these issues can be resolved by simply having a nice  heart to heart talk. Quite possibly, the whiny person thinks exactly the same about you.

I can&#039;t help but wonder, since you&#039;ve probably been in this situation yourself once or several times (probably being the inspiration for this post?), how, and if, did you deal with this? And what was the result?

Dealing with difficult people is always, well, difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Food for discussion.</p>
<p>This opens up another question, though. How do you cope with this? I think no-one (well, there&#8217;s always exceptions) is &#8216;whiny&#8217; on purpose. I strongly believe that in most cases, all of these issues can be resolved by simply having a nice  heart to heart talk. Quite possibly, the whiny person thinks exactly the same about you.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but wonder, since you&#8217;ve probably been in this situation yourself once or several times (probably being the inspiration for this post?), how, and if, did you deal with this? And what was the result?</p>
<p>Dealing with difficult people is always, well, difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Pierce</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/dont-be-a-whiny-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-23247</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I continuously whine about everything including:
Why didn&#039;t you write any unit tests?
Why is your code so hard to test?
Why is your code so resistant to change?
Why do I have to write all this SQL by hand?
Why don&#039;t your bits deploy consistently?
Why can&#039;t I use client side transactions?
Why did you write your own queuing framework?
Why do we make things more complicated than necessary?
Why do we code for six weeks before giving anything to the testers?
Why do we wait so long before we try to integrate with partners?
Why do you think we will get it right this time if we are doing the same thing we did last time?
...

-Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I continuously whine about everything including:<br />
Why didn&#8217;t you write any unit tests?<br />
Why is your code so hard to test?<br />
Why is your code so resistant to change?<br />
Why do I have to write all this SQL by hand?<br />
Why don&#8217;t your bits deploy consistently?<br />
Why can&#8217;t I use client side transactions?<br />
Why did you write your own queuing framework?<br />
Why do we make things more complicated than necessary?<br />
Why do we code for six weeks before giving anything to the testers?<br />
Why do we wait so long before we try to integrate with partners?<br />
Why do you think we will get it right this time if we are doing the same thing we did last time?<br />
&#8230;</p>
<p>-Bill</p>
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		<title>By: den Ben</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/dont-be-a-whiny-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-23241</link>
		<dc:creator>den Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strike&gt;Money&lt;/strike&gt;Envy, that’s the basics and the cause!

there... fixed that for ya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strike>Money</strike>Envy, that’s the basics and the cause!</p>
<p>there&#8230; fixed that for ya</p>
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		<title>By: Whiny developer</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/dont-be-a-whiny-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-23239</link>
		<dc:creator>Whiny developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money, that&#039;s the basics and the cause!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money, that&#8217;s the basics and the cause!!</p>
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		<title>By: BV</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/12/dont-be-a-whiny-developer/comment-page-1/#comment-23234</link>
		<dc:creator>BV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sound advice, surely, but the unfortunate thing is, whenever I see one of these posts, the writer usually has a specific person in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sound advice, surely, but the unfortunate thing is, whenever I see one of these posts, the writer usually has a specific person in mind.</p>
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