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	<title>Comments on: Finally Some Real Improvements For Automated Testing In .NET</title>
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	<description>Trying to walk that thin line between intelligence and ignorance</description>
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		<title>By: Davy Brion</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/10/finally-some-real-improvements-for-automated-testing-in-net/comment-page-1/#comment-22811</link>
		<dc:creator>Davy Brion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Liam

i know the difference, but i still think they are _very_ similar... if you can write TDD tests, you can write BDD tests.  The point of view differs, but that&#039;s about it.

And they definitely have their place... the kind of testing that you can do with something like QuickNet would not replace your TDD/BDD tests.  Well, at least not all of them but a few of them would make less sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Liam</p>
<p>i know the difference, but i still think they are _very_ similar&#8230; if you can write TDD tests, you can write BDD tests.  The point of view differs, but that&#8217;s about it.</p>
<p>And they definitely have their place&#8230; the kind of testing that you can do with something like QuickNet would not replace your TDD/BDD tests.  Well, at least not all of them but a few of them would make less sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam McLennan</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/10/finally-some-real-improvements-for-automated-testing-in-net/comment-page-1/#comment-22809</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam McLennan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must be wondering why there is such a fuss about BDD, since it is just a &quot;different syntax and slightly different way of organising your test fixtures&quot;. Have you considered that you might be missing the point? 

BDD scenarios are written against features, from the users point of view. TDD tests are written against implementation. It is a different mindsight. Both are appropriate in different scenarios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be wondering why there is such a fuss about BDD, since it is just a &#8220;different syntax and slightly different way of organising your test fixtures&#8221;. Have you considered that you might be missing the point? </p>
<p>BDD scenarios are written against features, from the users point of view. TDD tests are written against implementation. It is a different mindsight. Both are appropriate in different scenarios.</p>
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		<title>By: kilfour</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/10/finally-some-real-improvements-for-automated-testing-in-net/comment-page-1/#comment-22808</link>
		<dc:creator>kilfour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://kilfour.wordpress.com/2009/10/25/down-to-forty-seven/</description>
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		<title>By: Davy Brion</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/10/finally-some-real-improvements-for-automated-testing-in-net/comment-page-1/#comment-22807</link>
		<dc:creator>Davy Brion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s not a Pex clone :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s not a Pex clone <img src='http://davybrion.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/10/finally-some-real-improvements-for-automated-testing-in-net/comment-page-1/#comment-22806</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to look at Pex if you haven&#039;t already.
  http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/Pex/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may want to look at Pex if you haven&#8217;t already.<br />
  <a href="http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/Pex/" rel="nofollow">http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/Pex/</a></p>
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