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	<title>Comments on: When You Absolutely Need To Use A Real Database In Tests</title>
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	<description>Trying to walk that thin line between intelligence and ignorance</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Scott</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/07/when-you-absolutely-need-to-use-a-real-database-in-tests/comment-page-1/#comment-22356</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Nik - the database should be tested fully in integration tests. To that end, I strongly recommend having a look at Fitnesse, at http://fitnesse.org.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Nik &#8211; the database should be tested fully in integration tests. To that end, I strongly recommend having a look at Fitnesse, at <a href="http://fitnesse.org" rel="nofollow">http://fitnesse.org</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Nik Radford</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/07/when-you-absolutely-need-to-use-a-real-database-in-tests/comment-page-1/#comment-22198</link>
		<dc:creator>Nik Radford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tests using real database = Intergration Tests
Tests not using real database = Unit tests.

You should do both. The first shows the code does as expected. The second shows code behaves as expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tests using real database = Intergration Tests<br />
Tests not using real database = Unit tests.</p>
<p>You should do both. The first shows the code does as expected. The second shows code behaves as expected.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Nicol</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/07/when-you-absolutely-need-to-use-a-real-database-in-tests/comment-page-1/#comment-22193</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Nicol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got two good reasons for doing this : 

(1) I&#039;ve worked on applications that rely on data and code in the db (which is horrible to work with in general.

(2) I&#039;ve been burned with changes between collation and query syntax between the dev and live servers (make sure both run the same db version, and the same schema)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got two good reasons for doing this : </p>
<p>(1) I&#8217;ve worked on applications that rely on data and code in the db (which is horrible to work with in general.</p>
<p>(2) I&#8217;ve been burned with changes between collation and query syntax between the dev and live servers (make sure both run the same db version, and the same schema)</p>
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		<title>By: den Ben</title>
		<link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2009/07/when-you-absolutely-need-to-use-a-real-database-in-tests/comment-page-1/#comment-22187</link>
		<dc:creator>den Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common Sense (tm)

I actually kinda like the &#039;insert some records and some other records and query for it&#039;-approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common Sense &#8482;</p>
<p>I actually kinda like the &#8216;insert some records and some other records and query for it&#8217;-approach.</p>
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