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> <channel><title>Comments on: Agile Development Going Downhill?</title> <atom:link href="http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/11/agile-development-going-downhill/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/11/agile-development-going-downhill/</link> <description>inquisitive: adjective. given to inquiry, research, or asking questions; eager for knowledge; intellectually curious</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 21:55:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: You&#8217;ll Never Get Sustainable Progress For Free &#124; The Inquisitive Coder &#8211; Davy Brion&#39;s Blog</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/11/agile-development-going-downhill/comment-page-1/#comment-29354</link> <dc:creator>You&#8217;ll Never Get Sustainable Progress For Free &#124; The Inquisitive Coder &#8211; Davy Brion&#39;s Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:11:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=590#comment-29354</guid> <description>[...] Which reminded me of an excellent post written by James Shore over a year ago, and that i commented on as well.&#160; What James (and Ayende) are saying is that if you don’t actually take care of the [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Which reminded me of an excellent post written by James Shore over a year ago, and that i commented on as well.&#160; What James (and Ayende) are saying is that if you don’t actually take care of the [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Davy Brion</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/11/agile-development-going-downhill/comment-page-1/#comment-5160</link> <dc:creator>Davy Brion</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:53:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=590#comment-5160</guid> <description>on the technical level, we do TDD and we try to keep our code clean and keep our technical debt as low as possible. I don&#039;t think we do enough peer-review yet... i&#039;m mostly the one reviewing other people&#039;s code but in the future i&#039;d like to see people sharing that responsibilityAnother thing we still need to improve a lot is that there shouldn&#039;t be any notion of code ownership... when tests fail, people often still react &quot;those aren&#039;t my tests/code so i&#039;m not the one who should fix it&quot;. I&#039;m trying to get people to drop that attitude though, although this takes some time.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the technical level, we do TDD and we try to keep our code clean and keep our technical debt as low as possible. I don&#8217;t think we do enough peer-review yet&#8230; i&#8217;m mostly the one reviewing other people&#8217;s code but in the future i&#8217;d like to see people sharing that responsibility</p><p>Another thing we still need to improve a lot is that there shouldn&#8217;t be any notion of code ownership&#8230; when tests fail, people often still react &#8220;those aren&#8217;t my tests/code so i&#8217;m not the one who should fix it&#8221;. I&#8217;m trying to get people to drop that attitude though, although this takes some time.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sohan</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/11/agile-development-going-downhill/comment-page-1/#comment-5156</link> <dc:creator>Sohan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:52:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=590#comment-5156</guid> <description>Hello Davy,
Thanks for sharing the pain with agile. I would like to share my feelings here.I am doing agile for more than two years now at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.code71.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Code71 &lt;/a&gt; and I am developer of the scrum tool called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scrumpad.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; ScrumPad &lt;/a&gt;. What I have found is, people get very obsessed with the fact that very early you get to see the working software! This is really enticing for business people. But there are a few pre-requisites and thats where only a few put enough efforts. We have implemented a few here and are trying to get better at it. So far, we are doing TDD (I would say its a 75% TDD), peer reviews, short 2-week sprints and so on. But, I really think if you want to keep rolling every two weeks and without a up-front analysis, your software will not remain &#039;soft&#039; after a few iterations. So, its very important to be agile through continuous refactoring and good OO development skills.
And you are right, not many are doing TDD, good OO, reviews and all these prerequisites. Which is bad for agile as a whole.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Davy,<br
/> Thanks for sharing the pain with agile. I would like to share my feelings here.</p><p>I am doing agile for more than two years now at <a
href="http://www.code71.com" rel="nofollow"> Code71 </a> and I am developer of the scrum tool called <a
href="http://www.scrumpad.com" rel="nofollow"> ScrumPad </a>. What I have found is, people get very obsessed with the fact that very early you get to see the working software! This is really enticing for business people. But there are a few pre-requisites and thats where only a few put enough efforts. We have implemented a few here and are trying to get better at it. So far, we are doing TDD (I would say its a 75% TDD), peer reviews, short 2-week sprints and so on. But, I really think if you want to keep rolling every two weeks and without a up-front analysis, your software will not remain &#8216;soft&#8217; after a few iterations. So, its very important to be agile through continuous refactoring and good OO development skills.<br
/> And you are right, not many are doing TDD, good OO, reviews and all these prerequisites. Which is bad for agile as a whole.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dew Drop - November 17, 2008 &#124; Alvin Ashcraft's Morning Dew</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/11/agile-development-going-downhill/comment-page-1/#comment-5109</link> <dc:creator>Dew Drop - November 17, 2008 &#124; Alvin Ashcraft's Morning Dew</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:59:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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