Comments on: The CI Build should be a given http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/08/the-ci-build-should-be-a-given/ Trying to walk that thin line between intelligence and ignorance Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:03:58 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Davy Brion http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/08/the-ci-build-should-be-a-given/comment-page-1/#comment-1277 Davy Brion Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:39:13 +0000 http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=340#comment-1277 again, installing Team City is so easy anyone can do it... you really don't need to know anything about CI to get it working. CruiseControl... i'd skip that entirely because there are better alternatives these days as for the build file, take a look at the build script i linked to. it builds your project and it runs the tests in them... they wouldn't necessarily have to figure that out either Seriously, it's not hard, and it doesn't take a lot of time again, installing Team City is so easy anyone can do it… you really don’t need to know anything about CI to get it working.

CruiseControl… i’d skip that entirely because there are better alternatives these days

as for the build file, take a look at the build script i linked to. it builds your project and it runs the tests in them… they wouldn’t necessarily have to figure that out either

Seriously, it’s not hard, and it doesn’t take a lot of time

]]> By: Tim Barcz http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/08/the-ci-build-should-be-a-given/comment-page-1/#comment-1276 Tim Barcz Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:35:06 +0000 http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=340#comment-1276 "That is assuming you already have a build server in place, obviously" In this particular case the developer has neither. There is no build server. So that increases the time component. Also if you're new to CI, getting TeamCity or CruiseControl.NET up and running can be a bear. If you're using CruiseControl for example, you're now having edit xml files to get CruiseControl up. You now have to create a build file, which introduces another layer of complexity learning Nant/Msbuild. I would suggest you've underestimated what it takes to get CI up and running for a brand new shop with zero experience. “That is assuming you already have a build server in place, obviously”

In this particular case the developer has neither. There is no build server. So that increases the time component. Also if you’re new to CI, getting TeamCity or CruiseControl.NET up and running can be a bear.

If you’re using CruiseControl for example, you’re now having edit xml files to get CruiseControl up. You now have to create a build file, which introduces another layer of complexity learning Nant/Msbuild.

I would suggest you’ve underestimated what it takes to get CI up and running for a brand new shop with zero experience.

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