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> <channel><title>Comments on: Many projects don&#8217;t lead to a good solution</title> <atom:link href="http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/</link> <description>inquisitive: adjective. given to inquiry, research, or asking questions; eager for knowledge; intellectually curious</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 21:55:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: Anonmyous</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-105865</link> <dc:creator>Anonmyous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 01:54:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-105865</guid> <description>I work on a large .net application software product and we have about 100 projects and 1000s of code files. Imagine if we did it in 1 project. Think of the amount of intellisense that would pop all the time. Imagine the confusion we would have of using the correct objects and calls and how amazingly unique and descriptive all the class and function calls would have to be named. How would you like if the entire .net framework was in one library, and you just started every class with the words import System.Everything!!1!1, and then battle a billion intellisense suggestions with every line of code you write. Call that Intellectual Masturbation if you like but for us, our project has grown enough that these things have long become more than academic.The next problem we would have is with our release schedule. We do patch-like releases on a daily basis and our remote users only have to download the dlls that have actually changed. If it was all in one solution, we would be worse than i-tunes for making people having to constantly reinstall our product.I can appreciate that the blog was written based on smaller projects the author has experience with, but good practice should be the same regardless of the scale. if your project is small that should make it easy to keep it modular.Of course there ultimately has to be a thought process for what constitutes a time for a new project, and some people may take this too far. If you are studying at university then your teachers may get you to split things which seem a bit silly at the time, but in that case you are in an academic environment and you&#039;re assignment probably isn&#039;t so big to warrant so many projects but what you are learning is how to split a solution into subsystems, and write reusable code. If you reject these principals how will you cope when you work somewhere like I do and have over a million lines of code to manage.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work on a large .net application software product and we have about 100 projects and 1000s of code files. Imagine if we did it in 1 project. Think of the amount of intellisense that would pop all the time. Imagine the confusion we would have of using the correct objects and calls and how amazingly unique and descriptive all the class and function calls would have to be named. How would you like if the entire .net framework was in one library, and you just started every class with the words import System.Everything!!1!1, and then battle a billion intellisense suggestions with every line of code you write. Call that Intellectual Masturbation if you like but for us, our project has grown enough that these things have long become more than academic.</p><p>The next problem we would have is with our release schedule. We do patch-like releases on a daily basis and our remote users only have to download the dlls that have actually changed. If it was all in one solution, we would be worse than i-tunes for making people having to constantly reinstall our product.</p><p>I can appreciate that the blog was written based on smaller projects the author has experience with, but good practice should be the same regardless of the scale. if your project is small that should make it easy to keep it modular.</p><p>Of course there ultimately has to be a thought process for what constitutes a time for a new project, and some people may take this too far. If you are studying at university then your teachers may get you to split things which seem a bit silly at the time, but in that case you are in an academic environment and you&#8217;re assignment probably isn&#8217;t so big to warrant so many projects but what you are learning is how to split a solution into subsystems, and write reusable code. If you reject these principals how will you cope when you work somewhere like I do and have over a million lines of code to manage.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Davy Brion</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-14294</link> <dc:creator>Davy Brion</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 10:10:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-14294</guid> <description>as for the navigation... at this point i&#039;m so addicted to using CTRL+T and CTRL+SHIFT+T that i can&#039;t even consider using solution explorer for most navigation tasksAs for the number of projects... as long as there is no clear-cut benefit or reason to putting something in a different project, it&#039;s completely pointless IMO. And once your solution becomes big enough, the extra compilation time definitely comes back to bite you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as for the navigation&#8230; at this point i&#8217;m so addicted to using CTRL+T and CTRL+SHIFT+T that i can&#8217;t even consider using solution explorer for most navigation tasks</p><p>As for the number of projects&#8230; as long as there is no clear-cut benefit or reason to putting something in a different project, it&#8217;s completely pointless IMO. And once your solution becomes big enough, the extra compilation time definitely comes back to bite you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Peter Morris</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-14291</link> <dc:creator>Peter Morris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 10:05:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-14291</guid> <description>Navigation: You still have the same amount of code, you are just changing project navigation with folder navigation (I presume you are using folders in your app).Compilation: In the past I have been tempted just to reference binary output of shared libraries but didn&#039;t find a way to specify linking to difference assemblies based on the RELEASE/DEBUG build option.  Maybe I will go back to doing this but always referencing the RELEASE assembly.I certainly don&#039;t agree with the 1 project approach though :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Navigation: You still have the same amount of code, you are just changing project navigation with folder navigation (I presume you are using folders in your app).</p><p>Compilation: In the past I have been tempted just to reference binary output of shared libraries but didn&#8217;t find a way to specify linking to difference assemblies based on the RELEASE/DEBUG build option.  Maybe I will go back to doing this but always referencing the RELEASE assembly.</p><p>I certainly don&#8217;t agree with the 1 project approach though <img
src='http://d18sni7re4ly7f.cloudfront.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: links for 2009-04-29 &#171; Olivier&#8217;s Blog</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-13779</link> <dc:creator>links for 2009-04-29 &#171; Olivier&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:06:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-13779</guid> <description>[...] Many projects don’t lead to a good solution &#124; The Inquisitive Coder - Davy Brion’s Blog Code organization: solutions, projects (tags: .net) [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Many projects don’t lead to a good solution | The Inquisitive Coder &#8211; Davy Brion’s Blog Code organization: solutions, projects (tags: .net) [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Davy Brion</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-11289</link> <dc:creator>Davy Brion</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:10:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-11289</guid> <description>@KitKatRobinsproper release management and branching avoids that, and a host of other potential issues as well</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KitKatRobins</p><p>proper release management and branching avoids that, and a host of other potential issues as well</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KitkatRobins</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-11288</link> <dc:creator>KitkatRobins</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:03:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-11288</guid> <description>What happens if you have multiple developers working on a project, you have a bug to fix for a module e.g. News Module, so you need to do a delivery of the code if the project is one assembly you might bring in changes which another developer has done but is not a complete feature. If you just release the assembly with the fix in it then only that part is updated... which is a huge benefit</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens if you have multiple developers working on a project, you have a bug to fix for a module e.g. News Module, so you need to do a delivery of the code if the project is one assembly you might bring in changes which another developer has done but is not a complete feature. If you just release the assembly with the fix in it then only that part is updated&#8230; which is a huge benefit</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Assembly Organization in MEF - Leaning Into Windows</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-10188</link> <dc:creator>Assembly Organization in MEF - Leaning Into Windows</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:16:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-10188</guid> <description>[...] are a few blog posts including this by Chad Myers and this by Davy Brion that speak disparagingly about solutions with many projects. I do not actually agree with either [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are a few blog posts including this by Chad Myers and this by Davy Brion that speak disparagingly about solutions with many projects. I do not actually agree with either [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Elegant Code &#187; Tired Of Working With Big Visual Studio Solutions?</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-7071</link> <dc:creator>Elegant Code &#187; Tired Of Working With Big Visual Studio Solutions?</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:36:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-7071</guid> <description>[...] For new solutions, i think it&#8217;s better to just keep the number of projects to a minimum which i&#8217;ve explained previously here [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For new solutions, i think it&#8217;s better to just keep the number of projects to a minimum which i&#8217;ve explained previously here [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Inquisitive Coder - Davy Brion&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tired Of Working With Big Visual Studio Solutions?</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-7070</link> <dc:creator>The Inquisitive Coder - Davy Brion&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tired Of Working With Big Visual Studio Solutions?</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:28:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-7070</guid> <description>[...] For new solutions, i think it&#8217;s better to just keep the number of projects to a minimum which i&#8217;ve explained previously here [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For new solutions, i think it&#8217;s better to just keep the number of projects to a minimum which i&#8217;ve explained previously here [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Elegant Code &#187; Assembly Partioning Advice</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-6117</link> <dc:creator>Elegant Code &#187; Assembly Partioning Advice</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:59:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-6117</guid> <description>[...] partition your code in multiple assemblies. Because this is one of those subjects that i&#8217;m pretty opinionated about, i figured i&#8217;d quickly recap the valid and invalid reasons for creating assemblies that [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] partition your code in multiple assemblies. Because this is one of those subjects that i&#8217;m pretty opinionated about, i figured i&#8217;d quickly recap the valid and invalid reasons for creating assemblies that [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Inquisitive Coder - Davy Brion&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Assembly Partioning Advice</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-6114</link> <dc:creator>The Inquisitive Coder - Davy Brion&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Assembly Partioning Advice</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 11:35:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-6114</guid> <description>[...] partition your code in multiple assemblies. Because this is one of those subjects that i&#8217;m pretty opinionated about, i figured i&#8217;d quickly recap the valid and invalid reasons for creating assemblies that [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] partition your code in multiple assemblies. Because this is one of those subjects that i&#8217;m pretty opinionated about, i figured i&#8217;d quickly recap the valid and invalid reasons for creating assemblies that [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Weekly Links #10 &#124; GrantPalin.com</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-811</link> <dc:creator>Weekly Links #10 &#124; GrantPalin.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:16:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-811</guid> <description>[...] Many projects don’t lead to a good solution Response to above link. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Many projects don’t lead to a good solution Response to above link. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Davy Brion</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-767</link> <dc:creator>Davy Brion</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:21:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-767</guid> <description>@Colin:About the navigation... i think it really depends on a lot of things. i wouldn&#039;t just use a couple of top-level folders and put everything directly underneith them either. I pretty much go with top level folders for everything that most people would use different projects for and then i probably have a similar folder structure as most people would have. I just find it a lot easier to have it all within the same project. It&#039;s probably just me though ;)As for reuse, i agree that once you want to reuse certain parts that would be a valid reason to put those parts in a separate project. I don&#039;t think it should be a rule though... if there&#039;s an advantage to splitting it up for reuse then by all means do so. If there&#039;s really no disadvantage to referencing an entire assembly just to reuse a couple of classes, then i don&#039;t really see the point in splitting it up either. It&#039;s something you should look at on a case by case basis probablythe layer per assembly thing... i still don&#039;t see the point as the whole &quot;it&#039;s cleaner&quot; argument just seems purely theoretical to me. As long as there is no practical advantage, i don&#039;t see the point.  Obviously, this changes when you have multiple physical deployments, but if that&#039;s not the case, why bother?@LukeB:Wouldn&#039;t the client&#039;s application have to be restarted anyway before the fixed assembly would be used by the application? It might as well be just one assembly thenUnless you ment updating a server-side assembly without affecting client downtime, but then you&#039;d already be using different assemblies anyway :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Colin:</p><p>About the navigation&#8230; i think it really depends on a lot of things. i wouldn&#8217;t just use a couple of top-level folders and put everything directly underneith them either. I pretty much go with top level folders for everything that most people would use different projects for and then i probably have a similar folder structure as most people would have. I just find it a lot easier to have it all within the same project. It&#8217;s probably just me though <img
src='http://d18sni7re4ly7f.cloudfront.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>As for reuse, i agree that once you want to reuse certain parts that would be a valid reason to put those parts in a separate project. I don&#8217;t think it should be a rule though&#8230; if there&#8217;s an advantage to splitting it up for reuse then by all means do so. If there&#8217;s really no disadvantage to referencing an entire assembly just to reuse a couple of classes, then i don&#8217;t really see the point in splitting it up either. It&#8217;s something you should look at on a case by case basis probably</p><p>the layer per assembly thing&#8230; i still don&#8217;t see the point as the whole &#8220;it&#8217;s cleaner&#8221; argument just seems purely theoretical to me. As long as there is no practical advantage, i don&#8217;t see the point.  Obviously, this changes when you have multiple physical deployments, but if that&#8217;s not the case, why bother?</p><p>@LukeB:</p><p>Wouldn&#8217;t the client&#8217;s application have to be restarted anyway before the fixed assembly would be used by the application? It might as well be just one assembly then</p><p>Unless you ment updating a server-side assembly without affecting client downtime, but then you&#8217;d already be using different assemblies anyway <img
src='http://d18sni7re4ly7f.cloudfront.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bill Pierce</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-760</link> <dc:creator>Bill Pierce</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-760</guid> <description>Intellectual Masturbation Syndrome...almost fell out of my chair laughing.  I used to reach Intellectual Climax on a regular basis but have since come around to as few projects as possible.  Two to five sounds about right.  I too have almost never re-used any code I have written across applications.  When I need to I will create a Bill.Commons project but until then I&#039;ll stick with the CCCV Pattern for the small amount of code I re-use.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intellectual Masturbation Syndrome&#8230;almost fell out of my chair laughing.  I used to reach Intellectual Climax on a regular basis but have since come around to as few projects as possible.  Two to five sounds about right.  I too have almost never re-used any code I have written across applications.  When I need to I will create a Bill.Commons project but until then I&#8217;ll stick with the CCCV Pattern for the small amount of code I re-use.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Colin Jack</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-756</link> <dc:creator>Colin Jack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:37:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-756</guid> <description>Just re-read, when I said &quot;I don’t bring in a mothership project with all its tests/code just so I can reuse the projects that I really am interested in&quot; I meant &quot;reuse the parts&quot;.Got projects on the brain today.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just re-read, when I said &#8220;I don’t bring in a mothership project with all its tests/code just so I can reuse the projects that I really am interested in&#8221; I meant &#8220;reuse the parts&#8221;.</p><p>Got projects on the brain today.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LukeB</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-755</link> <dc:creator>LukeB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:32:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-755</guid> <description>Just remember, however, that it becomes impossible to patch your installation if everything is one big assembly. Depending on client requirements (especially downtime requirements) patching (via MSI) a single assembly to fix a bug can be very useful.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remember, however, that it becomes impossible to patch your installation if everything is one big assembly. Depending on client requirements (especially downtime requirements) patching (via MSI) a single assembly to fix a bug can be very useful.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Colin Jack</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-754</link> <dc:creator>Colin Jack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:24:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-754</guid> <description>Here&#039;s my issues with the less projects discussion:1) Less project doesn&#039;t really, in my experience, lead to easy navigation on a large project. You just end up with more folders and more folder hierarchy which mean that related classes spread out more. So if you keep all your domain classes in a folder then that folder will be large or have a lot of hierarchy, do the same with other aspects of the codebase (controllers, views, factories, config...) you end up navigating around a lot anyway.
2) Less project is faster - Agreed, but then by splitting things out into small(er) coherent chunks you can include just what you need in the solution. I don&#039;t bring in a mothership project with all its tests/code just so I can reuse the projects that I really am interested in. Also I think Michael Feathers had an interesting point on this in his book, where you only depend on an interface and as long as the implementation doesn&#039;t change you don&#039;t need to rebuild.
3) Reuse - I haven&#039;t experienced people moving things out for future reuse but I agree that&#039;s bad, however in my experience reuse happens a lot and thats definitely a place where more targetted projects help.
4) Layer Per Assembly - I agree, basically, with that approach and its not about trust, I&#039;d do it working on my own as I just find it far cleanrer.Anyway I&#039;m not overly happy with a lot of projects but one project doesn&#039;t fit my needs either (reuse/dependencies/navigation) so I&#039;m really wondering if we need a more virtualized view. Folders/projects providing one view of our development efforts just doesn&#039;t seem enough...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my issues with the less projects discussion:</p><p> 1) Less project doesn&#8217;t really, in my experience, lead to easy navigation on a large project. You just end up with more folders and more folder hierarchy which mean that related classes spread out more. So if you keep all your domain classes in a folder then that folder will be large or have a lot of hierarchy, do the same with other aspects of the codebase (controllers, views, factories, config&#8230;) you end up navigating around a lot anyway.<br
/> 2) Less project is faster &#8211; Agreed, but then by splitting things out into small(er) coherent chunks you can include just what you need in the solution. I don&#8217;t bring in a mothership project with all its tests/code just so I can reuse the projects that I really am interested in. Also I think Michael Feathers had an interesting point on this in his book, where you only depend on an interface and as long as the implementation doesn&#8217;t change you don&#8217;t need to rebuild.<br
/> 3) Reuse &#8211; I haven&#8217;t experienced people moving things out for future reuse but I agree that&#8217;s bad, however in my experience reuse happens a lot and thats definitely a place where more targetted projects help.<br
/> 4) Layer Per Assembly &#8211; I agree, basically, with that approach and its not about trust, I&#8217;d do it working on my own as I just find it far cleanrer.</p><p>Anyway I&#8217;m not overly happy with a lot of projects but one project doesn&#8217;t fit my needs either (reuse/dependencies/navigation) so I&#8217;m really wondering if we need a more virtualized view. Folders/projects providing one view of our development efforts just doesn&#8217;t seem enough&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dew Drop - July 18, 2008 &#124; Alvin Ashcraft's Morning Dew</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-753</link> <dc:creator>Dew Drop - July 18, 2008 &#124; Alvin Ashcraft's Morning Dew</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:49:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-753</guid> <description>[...] Many Projects Don&#8217;t Lead to a Good Solution (Davy Brion) [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Many Projects Don&#8217;t Lead to a Good Solution (Davy Brion) [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jan Van Ryswyck</title><link>http://davybrion.com/blog/2008/07/many-projects-dont-lead-to-a-good-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-748</link> <dc:creator>Jan Van Ryswyck</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:43:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://davybrion.com/blog/?p=174#comment-748</guid> <description>IMS! Nice term :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMS! Nice term <img
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